00:27:58 Omar L: Thank you to Dr Wayne Mitchell, Dr Donald Palmer & Dr William Ackah for joining us to speak today! 00:29:52 Munira Folayan-Folami: Thank you Dr for your precious time 👏🏽👏🏽💟 00:41:42 Terrence Green: brilliant Dr Donald Palmer 00:41:51 Omar L: Massive thank you to Dr Palmer! 00:42:25 Munira Folayan-Folami: A really important question for myself is that I have LUPUS 00:43:06 Munira Folayan-Folami: SORRY I need to say that means m6 immune system is very low! 00:45:12 Dr Jim Thakoordin: Hi I am Dr Jim Thakoordin born in Guyana and came to UK age 17 in 1961. I am an author, historian and activist on Race Class and Anti-racism issues. I am new to this group. A great contribution from Professor Palmer. Proud to know we have such experts amongst us in the UK. 00:48:54 Donald Palmer: Thank You Terence, Omar and Jim....your kind words are much appreciated 00:53:58 Veronica Fritzon: very easy to understand professor Palmer, my husband and I have had the vaccine last Sunday-astra Zeneca. Veronica 00:56:38 Elsie Gayle: I would like to have an understanding of the Cuban vaccine please 00:57:20 Usman Ali: It would be interesting to hear about why there is such a difference in terms of the success rate for the Oxford Uni vaccine (62%-90%)? 00:59:48 Margaret Busby: Very clear and useful presentations from Drs Donald and Wayne - thank you both. 00:59:56 Omar L: Massive thank you to Dr Mitchell! 01:00:47 Patricia Gilbert: Brilliant, clear presentations - many thanks. 01:00:47 Fi Forbes: thank you Dr Mitchell very informative... has removed some of my mis conceptios 01:01:09 Terrence Green: absolutely awesome Dr Mitchell why we aren't encouraged to have such knowledge from a young age, respect to you sir. 01:01:09 NATASHA PLUMMER: Thank you Dr Mitchel - very informative 01:01:15 ama biney: Excellent presentations so far. Thank you CLS! 01:08:34 783766: We seem to be more susceptible to the ravages of Covid within the Western metropoli. One theory suggests that we suffer more because Europeans of malicious intent do us most harm when they believe they can perpetrate harm to us under cover of secrecy. 01:09:28 Patricia Gilbert: Excellent points William - thank you. 01:09:51 Omar L: Massive thank you to Dr William Ackah! 01:10:17 Usman Ali: Thank you so much William - Insightful political & social analysis 01:11:19 Carlene: What are BAMEs more likely to be infected with CoViD? 01:11:40 wilf Sullivan: Thanks very good a clear presentations 01:12:16 Terrence Green: thank you Dr Ackah but how many centuries should we keep doing the right thing but get nothing in return apart from further inequalities and displacement. 01:12:18 Shaka Anderson: A question for the doctors. If we take the vaccine at this stage, are we technically volunteers who data will be collected on and is there any recourse to sue if anything goes wrong? 01:12:36 Elridge Bodkin: Is the mRNA unstable in comparison to the DNA vaccines? 01:12:45 NATASHA PLUMMER: Dr Mitchell - Is there any risk of system overload to a person who has had COVID if they then take the vaccine? 01:14:48 Nathalie Austin: What is the best vaccination to take if you have a number of serious allergies to food and allergies plants? 01:14:54 Michelle Asantewa: Thank you for your presentations Drs. What would be interesting to know also is whether collaboration has involved Africans/Asian scientists and their potential development and experiences of immunology. If the vaccine doesn't absolutely prevent infection - are we able to identify 'natural' remedies that also 'effectively manage the spread?' This does not seem to be a consideration as to a contributing factor in 'vaccination hesitancy.' 01:16:02 Fi Forbes: valid point Michelle 01:17:15 wilf Sullivan: Why are some countries recommending that the AstraZeneca vaccine is only given to under 65's 01:20:05 Terrence Green: Will the brilliant slides be emailed to us please? 01:20:27 Patricia Gilbert: https://www.caribbean-council.org/cuba-begins-clinical-trials-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/ 01:22:52 M R: Why are the Caribbean islands and Africa not developing their own vaccination? 01:22:57 Fi Forbes: no matter Hector! do your thing! 01:25:47 Dennot Nyack: Granma, the Cuban newspaper, have written that some US cities are calling President Biden to allow Cuban vaccines into the country. http://en.granma.cu/mundo/2021-02-05/some-15-us-cities-request-cuban-healthcare-collaboration. 01:25:57 Jean Tate: The issue of communication and cooperation is very important in relation to Cuba. I understand that because of the US blockade they are having problems in getting constituent materials that they need for manufacturing in large quantities and sharing in the rest of the Caribbean and Africa. Thanks to Trump’s designating Cuba as a terrorist state this has been made even worse. It means that companies trading with Cuba would be blacked from trading agreements with the US. 01:26:27 Dennot Nyack: Why are the Caribbean islands and Africa not developing their own vaccination? See above……Granma, the Cuban newspaper, have written that some US cities are calling President Biden to allow Cuban vaccines into the country. http://en.granma.cu/mundo/2021-02-05/some-15-us-cities-request-cuban-healthcare-collaboration. 01:27:03 Munira Folayan-Folami: Yet Cuban Doctors were at the forefront of saving lives around the world 01:28:24 Wayne Mitchell: The mRNA is always unstable because of the transient nature of the material. The body breaks down mRNA very rapidly therefore the reason for special storage condition. In the vaccine the packaging gives some protection to the mRNA to enable the protein to be produced. After th 01:28:40 Elridge Bodkin: Is it true that the mRNA vaccine is unstable in comparison to the DNA vaccine? 01:29:01 Terrence Green: absolutely agree hector pre Covid normal was unequal so how is post going to be different? social/ political and certainly the natural world. 01:29:12 Elridge Bodkin: Thanks. Posted at the same time 01:29:23 Omar L: Massive thank you to Hector Wesley! 01:30:06 ama biney: Please send information or a link on the zero covid campaign. 01:30:23 M R: New Zealand have zero covid? To my knowledge they have not started vaccination! So it's possible without the vaccination? Is zero vivid possible when virus do not go away. 01:30:55 Wayne Mitchell: @terrence Green, we will make the slides available to the CLS community. 01:31:14 Omar L: Hands up are from: Glenroy Watson and Patsy Cummings 01:32:40 NATASHA PLUMMER: Is there any risk of system overload to a person who has had COVID if they then take the vaccine? 01:32:58 Hector Wesley: www.zerocovid.uk 01:33:09 ama biney: thanks 01:33:14 Patricia Gilbert: How can we counter the spread of conspiracy theories on social media - especially among young people. Would Dr Ackah or others be able to comment? 01:34:27 Willelmina Joseph: I work in the NHS and certainly the take up amongst ‘BAME’ staff is low. My Trust is concerned because 43%of our staff is BAME. We had a meeting just like this one last week to allay the fears of BAME staff.. 01:35:23 Elsie Gayle: One primary principle of healthcare is “informed consent” is this something that colleagues have been afforded before they have been given the vaccine? 01:35:34 Munira Folayan-Folami: LUPUS IS HIGH IN BME COMMUNITY 01:37:44 Veronica Fritzon: I agree , this is clearest presentation, and I have been to 2 other. Veronica 01:37:51 NATASHA PLUMMER: @Patricia Gilbert from my experience with hate speech, the best way to address misinformation and negative narratives on social media is to have a clear strategy for putting out accurate counter-narratives. Engaging with those spreading the misinformation is a futile exercise that just gives them more oxygen. We can help by sharing the nuggets we have heard here today and signposting friends/family to reliable and accurate sources of information 01:38:29 Patricia Gilbert: Very good points Natasha - thanks. 01:38:41 Terrence Green: Awesome feedback Patsy totally agree jargon free explanations excellent. 01:39:34 Paul Ward: If this meeting is being recorded, a link so that I could replay its excellent content here in Jamaica would be very useful. 01:40:17 Omar L: Hi Paul, the meeting is indeed being recorded 😊 01:42:30 Peter Ramrayka: Thank you very much Drs. Wayne, Donal 01:43:40 Patricia Gilbert: Can I also recommend the work of Dr Winston Morgan Reader in Toxiology and Clinical Biochemistry at UEL - he made a useful video on this issue at the end of last year.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_gnHctWl6s 01:43:46 Veronica Fritzon: I have Diabetes, I took my husband for his vaccine at Epsom, and when I asked they slotted me in as well. veronica 01:44:13 Peter Ramrayka: Thank you very much Drs. Wayne, Donald and William. Absolutely first hand, easy to understand presentations 01:45:14 Donald Palmer: Here's Dr Winston Morgan's article 01:45:17 Donald Palmer: https://theconversation.com/anti-vaxxers-are-weaponising-the-vaccine-hesitancy-of-black-communities-153836 01:46:44 Wayne Mitchell: @Elridge Bodkin. The nature of the mRNA means the mRNA is more unstable than DNA. This is the reason why you have different storage conditions. The actual working of the vaccine should not be affected by the as long it is store and delivered according to the manufacturers instructions. 01:47:25 Jean Tate: Really important, helpful and supportive information. Thank you so much to all speakers. So important to have evidence based information on which to based decisions and talk with others in the community. 01:47:28 Fi Forbes: thanks Frank 01:50:12 Steve Cushion: Tomorrow, I shall make the video available on the website and make a list of the links the Drs have provided and circulate this as well. 01:50:41 Fi Forbes: thanks Steve 01:51:40 Michelle Asantewa: Thanks Steve 01:51:42 Omar L: Thank you Steve! 01:52:16 Wayne Mitchell: @Natasha Plummer, it's very unlikely that your immune system will be overloaded if you have already had COVID and then take the vaccine, it is more likely to improve the efficiency of the immune response if you encounter the virus again. 01:52:57 Munira Folayan-Folami: A huge thank you to our 3 Doctors who have so eloquently explained what all this means and put us in a better place in making a knowledgeable choice ... Thank You 01:53:17 Omar L: Thank you very much Paul! 01:53:56 Oluwarotimi Ajayi: any reasons why the level of vaccines is very low in Africa while they have administered over millions around the world, WHO said on 25 have been administered in Africa the death rate is now going up in Africa 01:54:34 Steve Cushion: Paul has sent me a written copy of his Report from Jamaica, I shall make this available tomorrow as well. 01:57:02 Elsie Gayle: Just to share that Vitamin D (Pharma Nord) is undergoing trials for effectiveness against COVID -19 01:58:12 Caribbean Social Forum Online: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/get-vitamin-d-supplements/ 01:58:31 NATASHA PLUMMER: @Dr Mitchell - thank for responding to my question 01:58:46 Veronica Fritzon: Does doctors have any explanation why Sweden who has taken less precautions than others- why their hospitalisation and death rate is so much less? Veronica 01:58:56 Tweed: I read reports of many countries, eg Brazil, India, are distributing treatment kits: Vit D, Vit C, Zinc and most importantly Ivermectin. Can either of the Advisors speak to this? Tess Lawrie wrote to Boris Johnson on this 5 January and has been ignored... 01:59:50 Tweed: Effectiveness of Ivermectin by official researcher and consultant to WHO and NHS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RMBa1UfsE 02:00:21 Patricia Gilbert: Veronica - their infection and death rates were worse than their neighbours because of their herd immunity policy - which they have recently partly abandoned. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/03/swedish-model-failed-covid-19 02:03:06 Patricia Gilbert: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113834/cumulative-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-nordics/ 02:03:43 M R: Good points Tweed 02:05:14 Tweed: Free Vit D https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/get-vitamin-d-supplements/ 02:05:29 Elridge Bodkin: I know of 2 people who have refused the virus. No effort was made to try to persuade them otherwise, which is probably NHS policy 02:05:52 Tweed: Free Vit D Who can use this service? You can use this service if all of these apply: you have received a letter from the NHS or the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) saying you're at high risk from coronavirus you're aged 18 or over you live in England When you apply, we will check you're on the shielded patients list of people at high risk from coronavirus. If you have received a letter about this, you're on the list. We'll share your name and address with a partner provider working with DHSC and they will send you 4 months' supply of supplements. You can make 1 application for vitamin D supplements. You need to apply before Sunday 21 February 2021. 02:09:58 Omar L: CLS are on Twitter: @clsuk1974 02:10:13 Tweed: FDA approved https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 02:10:32 Leonie Jordan: thank youfor 02:11:13 Michelle Asantewa: Thank you all for hosting, organising and presenting at this CLS meeting. It's been clear and informative, much needed discussions. 02:11:23 josephine b: Paper https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/weekly-total-archive/ African/Caribbean pls must be driven by READING data and not be driven by news repeating chatter of people who do not read data. ALL must substantiate their utterances with data. here is a link to the CUMULATIVE figures of NHS deaths from covid19 to 28 January 2021. Look at the tab and you will see that African/Caribbean deaths in the NHS are at 3%. this is no more than African/Caribbean numbers in the UK population of 3%. White people are 79% of the deaths from Covid19 and are the highest risk group. So why has it been re-iterated for months that African caribbeans are at higher risk than other races? DO YOUR OWN READING BEFORE TAKING EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY THAT ARE NOW BEING STUDIED IN THE POPULATION AND WITH WHICH ELDERS IN CARE HOMES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS DYING shortly after taking this experimental gene therapy from anaphylaxis. 02:11:25 Fi Forbes: thank you to organiser/speakers! 02:11:44 Leonie Jordan: Thank you for this measured and fact based discussion which we will be able to share with the wider community 02:12:04 NATASHA PLUMMER: Thank you to CLS and to all the speakers and other participants. I like to take informed decisions and I want my family to do so too. I will be passing on much of what's been discussed today so they can take advice from more informed sources than social media groups. 02:12:18 Maxine Tomlinson: Thank You. An excellent discussion. 02:12:32 josephine b: the experimental gene therapies approved by the MHRA are for EMERGENCY USE. The European Medicines Agency have given a conditional approval. Please read before taking experimental gene therapy. Switch off the BBC and read. 02:12:34 Helena Deazle: Thank you Drs Donald, Wayne and William for a balanced an clearly explained presentation. And thank you CLS for organising this event. 02:12:39 Terrence Green: Thank you cls feel elevated wow DR's brilliant immeasurable!!! 02:12:47 Jean Joseph: Thank you CLS and speakers. Very clear information. 02:15:15 Patricia Gilbert: Many thanks to CLS for organising this informative event – I hope more and more events like these are held over the coming weeks and months to address all of the concerns that people have about the vaccines. As Dr Ackah stated, this should be part of our fight for justice and equity and we should not be side-tracked by misinformation. I agree with Hector also that the only really effective way forward is to adopt a Zero-Covid strategy. Many thanks to all. 02:15:20 wilf Sullivan: Thanks hHector 02:16:06 Elridge Bodkin: Thanks to the Doctors, and participants. Thank you Luke and CLS for putting this on 02:16:23 Margaret Busby: Thanks to CLS for organizing this event 02:16:48 Elridge Bodkin: Thanks Steve too 02:17:16 Fi Forbes: great! thanks Steve 02:17:23 wilf Sullivan: Thanks Steve briolliant 02:17:51 Terrence Green: Brilliant Steve you understand my learning style 02:17:57 Fi Forbes: Thanks Paul 02:18:10 anne braithwaite: Brillant Steve, thanks! 02:18:19 Oluwarotimi Ajayi: That will be great steve 02:18:59 Anita Shervington: Thank you everyone, great session. Will sign up to CLS! 02:19:02 Nadine Finch: Great meeting - many thanks 02:19:24 Dennot Nyack: Sorry everyone…Idid not mean to send this out earlier. My mistake…However, here it is. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08VRFYBFN. Hi Everyone, " How the West Indian Child is Made Educationally Sub-normal in the British School System... ", 50th anniversary publication, has now been published. It contains an update by Bernard Coard, updated data and analysis by Professor Hubert Devonish of the University of the West Indies and a foreword by Jeremy Corbyn MP. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08VRFYBFN A launch of the book will take place @ 7.30 pm, UK time, on the 31 March. To be confirmed. Bernard Coard, Jeremy Corbyn and others will speak. Please pass on to workmates, family and friends. To book go to http://bit.ly/3ar8dHA Dennot N